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You can confess Jesus as Lord, cast out demons, do mighty works—and still hear him say, “I never knew you.” Matthew 7:21–23 cuts past everything we think proves we’re his followers, asking instead the question that actually matters: Does he know you?
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So, the last few weeks are sort of like a series within a series. We’ve been looking at what Jesus has to say on false teaching, on the ways that the world calls us versus the ways that God calls us. And today, Jesus is going to take us, as we continue on the Sermon on the Mount, Matthew chapter 7, if you’d like to turn there, he’s going to take us into perhaps the most challenging part of that—false disciples, false followers of Jesus.
What does that mean? Are we false followers? Have you ever had that doubt creep into your mind, am I really following Jesus? And if there is such a thing as those who think they believe but aren’t, then am I in that category? How do I know this? How do I—Jesus says it here—how do I make sense of that? Well, we’re going to try to think about that tonight, and I believe as we do, we find not a place to feel fear and uncertainty, but rather a place to feel God’s challenge to our lives.
And what it really comes down to is inspecting what we actually value. Where are we actually looking? And there’s truly no better place to think about what we look at than to look at a beautiful picture of a big old tree. Melanie just actually showed me this tree on Friday, and it’s a beautiful tree. I should have gotten a wider angle, but you can see some of the green leaves coming down from the top. It’s a beautiful tree, old tree, right? Wouldn’t you, if you’re in a house that doesn’t have big old trees like that, wouldn’t you love to have some trees like that in your yard? They’re just beautiful. And you see a tree like that, and you think, wow, that looks like a great tree, that’s a healthy tree. Look at that trunk there.
But I didn’t show you the whole picture. Let’s go ahead and take a look at the whole picture. Notice that tree. We zoom out a little, and what do we see about that tree? That tree that looks just like a perfectly normal, healthy tree, well, it does seem to be doing really well. Let’s go back for a second there. I moved it along too fast. But if you look, its roots are stuck in this little hillside cliff, and it’s holding on, literally, to the extent that trees hold on for dear life, it’s holding on for dear life because it’s going to fall in the creek if it doesn’t hold on. Those roots are massive, they’re bigger than a lot of the trees that I see, and it’s holding on to the ground.
Now if I’m evaluating a tree, I’m looking at the trunk. How is that trunk? But if you think about that tree there, what’s really important isn’t the trunk, because if the trunk were in little, bitty, shallow roots that were leaning over the creek like that, that tree would have been long gone. What holds the tree there? Well, it’s where the roots are going. It’s how healthy those roots are. And clearly, apparently, I’m no certified arborist or anything, but apparently, looking at this tree, and how big it is, and how it’s still growing, apparently that tree has managed to grow its roots deeply into something that can hold it into place, despite the circumstance that’s less than ideal.
Well, most of our lives are less than ideal, right? I think probably all of us would say, well, yeah, there’s some things. Sometimes we feel like we’re right on the edge of a creek, getting ready to fall in. Sometimes we feel like we’re more of a normal tree, we’re rooted in just a nice, flat ground, but we get a big windstorm and we see what happens to trees that aren’t rooted well in perfectly flat ground, too. Where do my roots go? Where do your roots go? That’s what Jesus is challenging us to think about here. What are we rooting ourselves in? And when we confess Him, when we say, I’m going to follow Jesus, I’m going to be a Christian, I’m going to say I want to do God’s will, what am I rooted in?
That can be kind of uncomfortable at times, so let’s go ahead, let’s come before our God, ask for His guidance and His help to see this. Sometimes we don’t like peering in these places in our hearts, but let’s go ahead and ask Him, for He can help us to see.
Father, we come before You and as we look at Your Word here, we are challenged to ask where we’re rooting our own lives, what are our priorities, what are we holding on to? And Lord, we ask that You would help us to hold on to You and to Your truth. Help us to root in the things that will actually hold us at bay when the winds are blowing us into the creek, to not be knocked over, but rather to be drawn closer and closer to the true source of life that we find in You. It would help us to do this through Your Son, our Savior, by the power of Your Holy Spirit, we pray in Jesus’ name, amen.
Let’s go ahead and take a look at these verses. Verse 21 of Matthew chapter 7, Jesus says, “Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven.”
On that day, many will say to Me, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name and cast out demons in Your name and do many mighty works in Your name? Anyone here cast out a demon? I can’t even speak tonight, much less cast them out. Anyone cast out a demon? No, no demon exorcists here. That sounds pretty impressive, doesn’t it? We find it in scripture. We find people doing that. And Jesus says, even some of the people that do that, I’m not going to recognize on the day that I return.
Now, I read that and think, wow, here are people that are clearly working by the power of our Lord, because you can’t cast out a demon by your own power. Here are people doing signs and wonders, and Jesus says, I’m not going to know them. If He’s not going to know those people, how’s He going to know me? What hope do I have?
And it starts with the title that they call Jesus. They call Him Lord. Lord, Lord, didn’t I do all these things? Don’t you remember me? So they clearly have a sense of respect towards Jesus. These are not people who are actively antagonistic towards Jesus, people that say, I don’t believe in Him, I don’t like Him, I want nothing to do with Him. These are people that they see Jesus and they say, Lord, Lord.
What do we make of that? I like what John Calvin says. He says that the Spirit can work in people even if they aren’t actually believers. And sometimes even those who don’t genuinely believe will confess the truth. We see that in scripture a number of different times. We’ll take a look at one in a moment, but we also need to ask the question, what is it they mean by Lord, Lord?
Now we hear Lord, and what do we think? Anyone, what do you think when I say Lord, what do you immediately think? God. God, right? Okay, easy, straightforward. They get it.
We have to understand at the time that this word had a great deal of variation, what it was referring to. It very well could refer to the Lord God Almighty, but it could also refer to someone simply of respected status. Think more like in England when you have lords and ladies, right? And so it could be that this is a polite title to a teacher.
We certainly find a lot of people in our society that say, well, Jesus was a great teacher. And so if they encountered Him, they would say in our stripped down American English that wouldn’t get into using the word Lord probably, they probably would use a nice term to refer to Him because they respect Him, but they actually know who He is.
Now Matthew, as he’s reporting this, he’s sharing glimpses into the ministry of Jesus from a span of three years, so Matthew isn’t including everything. By the time that Matthew writes his gospel, we can assume that more people are thinking of Jesus and the word Lord in that greater sense. And so Matthew also knows some people are going to read this and understand it that way.
And I think that gives us an idea, it gives us an idea that it really doesn’t matter if the person only thinks that Jesus is a teacher or they actually understand who He is, there’s something deeper going on that’s the problem. That could be a problem, right? If we don’t really understand who He is, if we just think He’s a great teacher, that’s a challenge. But even if we understand that He’s God, there could be a problem.
Take a look at Luke chapter 4, verse 41. It says, “…and the demons also came out of many, crying, You are the Son of God! But He rebuked them and would not allow them to speak, because they knew that He was the Christ.”
So as we see in example after example in Scripture, even the spiritual forces that oppose Jesus can understand that He’s the Son of God. They know who He is. Doesn’t mean that they’re saved, doesn’t mean that they experience a relationship with Him.
And so we need to start with, what’s my relationship to Jesus? What does it mean when I call Jesus Lord? Am I saying that Jesus is truly my Lord as in God, the one who is the ruler of all things? Am I saying that He’s a great teacher? Am I saying somewhere in the middle? Am I kind of one place on one day and another place on another day? Am I one theoretically in my head and another in my heart? What am I saying when I say this?
We rightly put a lot of importance on confession. And not just we confess sin, we also confess what we believe. If you haven’t already and at some point you choose to join Little Hills, you’ll confess what you believe as part of joining. If you already joined, you’ll remember doing that. We took membership vows and what were those membership vows? They weren’t anything deep and dark and secret. They were, can we confess together publicly what it is that we believe about Jesus and our relationship to Him?
So there’s a lot of importance to confession. I don’t want to take the least bit away from that. It’s something that we’re called to do. We see in scripture over and over again that we should testify to who Jesus is.
But maybe what we need to also say is that even if we say the right things, there’s something more. We might say, ah, that something more is I need to do something impressive.
And in fact, some Christians over the years have said, well, you need to confess who Jesus is and you need to do something. And if you do that something, if you do something impressive enough, then we’ll know that the Holy Spirit is working in you. And if you do that, then we’ll know that you are actually one of God’s.
So what do we see here that Jesus is just shooting down all of our usual ways of approaching things here. What does he say in verse 22 once again? He says, on that day, many will say to me, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and cast out demons in your name and do mighty works in your name?
Whatever you can think of that, well, if only a person does this impressive deed, then we know that the power of the Lord is upon that person. Whatever you can come up with, Jesus is saying, there are going to be people that say that. He doesn’t say they’re lying. He doesn’t say, get away from me, you false servants that pretend that you did mighty works. You didn’t really do them. No. He takes it for granted that they actually did mighty works.
The Didache, which is an early Christian letter on teaching and discipleship, said this, it said, but not everyone who speaks in a spirit is a prophet, except he have the behavior of the Lord.
So what do we know? Well, we know that there are plenty of people who can do impressive things.
And I often find myself thinking in these situations of a wonderful line from Shakespeare’s play Hamlet. Hamlet says to his friend Horatio, “There are more things in heaven and on earth than exist within your philosophy, Horatio.” And I’ve joked over the years, Hamlet is a great theologian. And he is a great theologian, because what does he realize? They’re trying to struggle to understand what’s going on. There are supernatural forces that don’t seem to be good that they’re facing. And Hamlet recognizes there’s a lot that we don’t understand.
And what do we know? We find in scripture, there’s a lot that we don’t understand. But merely seeming to have spiritual power, if we’re not clear on where it’s coming from, is not enough to say that we are those who are known by Jesus.
Second Thessalonians chapter two, verse nine, Paul writes, “The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing because they refuse to love the truth and so be saved. For God sends them a strong delusion so that they may believe what is false in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”
What do we find there? What’s the gist of that? We find people who have tapped some sort of spiritual power. Maybe they’re telling the future. Maybe they’re telling details about people’s lives. They are far better than any of those infomercials that advertise late at night and say, call up and have your future told. They actually are doing it. It’s actually seemingly authenticated, and it’s not real in the sense that people think it is.
We can see that all the way back in the Exodus. There’s the Egyptian magicians that Moses comes and he does these great signs and wonders before Pharaoh and says, I am here by the power of the Lord, and what do the Egyptian magicians do? And they do the same signs up to a point.
Satan will enable things to happen to undermine the work of the Lord. So signs and wonders can authenticate ministry, but if that’s really what we’re using, if that’s the standard that we’re looking for to tell if someone is a follower of Jesus, if we’re looking in our own hearts and trying to say, well, have I done anything spectacular? We’re looking in the wrong place.
And here’s what we find. We find right here in what Jesus says, verse 23… Actually, hang on a second. Before we do that, I want to actually ask you about something else. I’m sorry. This doesn’t look like verse 23, does it? It looks like a swimming pool.
Look at that swimming pool again for a moment. Does this not look refreshing? Looks pretty nice, right? Maybe not today. It’s kind of cold out, but imagine a nice hot day. You could go in and get in that pool, and it’s an indoor pool. Yes, an indoor pool. It’s an indoor pool on a ship.
Now, maybe you’ve been saving up for a cruise, and you think, oh, I’m going to go on this cruise, go to this wonderful place with wonderful weather, and I hope that they have a beautiful pool. And that one looks a little vintage, but hey, isn’t that neat? It’s quaint. It’s got a nice character, right?
How many of you, if you are on a cruise, and you’re presented with that pool, and the water’s a nice temperature, how many of you are going to say, I think I’d like to get in on that? That looks nice. Yeah, that looks refreshing. Bring it on.
Well, let me tell you something. Here’s a little secret. No one has to pay an admission to get into that pool. It’s filled with water. Yes, it looks old, but it’s filled with water.
Does anyone know what pool that is? You do have a sinking feeling. Very good. Yes. Yes, it is the pool on the Titanic. And someone pointed out to me not long ago, it still has water in it. A lot of water in it. It looks, it sounds good, right? If our measure of do I want to get in the pool is it’s in an ocean liner, and it has water in it, and it’s a really neat design, you can get in the Titanic’s pool. But I don’t think that’s really what most of us have bargained for, is it?
We need to know what we’re really valuing. And just like that pool, so often as we’ve been talking about this, we’re saying, does the pool have any water in it? Is it on a really nice ship that people would like to sail on? Okay, great. I’ll sign up for it. And I bet what you wouldn’t think if you go to see a travel agent and you open the brochure and you see that is, has the ship sunk?
But that’s important to know, right? I don’t want to be on a ship that’s sunk. I want to be on one that can stay afloat. And we need to stay on a ship that stays afloat in our lives too.
Verse 23, there we are now. And then, and then will I declare to them, I never knew you. Depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.
You see, these people were looking at the wrong measures. They were seeing if the ship, the boat had a pool on it. They’re seeing if the water was in the pool, but they weren’t seeing if the ship had sunk. What are we doing? Are we checking to see if the ship is sunk?
And what we see here is that there is something to do with the relationship with Jesus that is essential beyond the works, beyond the confession. We can say how great Jesus is. We can do mighty acts, but does Jesus know us? Because he’s the judge.
What do we find in scripture? We find as we read scripture over and over again, what do we know consistently about human beings? Human beings fail. Human beings don’t do what’s pleasing to God. We sin over and over and over again. I sin over and over and over again, and I think I’m over some sin, and then I do it again. It’s so frustrating. And I try to think, well, maybe this isn’t a sin. That way I don’t have to worry about it. And then, and I think, no, it is. And so I’m sunk, but we’re told that we can be known by the judge.
Now as Jesus says that he’s the judge, what’s he telling us? He’s telling us several important things. He’s going to cast out these people, so that authenticates him as judge. Also authenticates him as a particular judge. It authenticates him as God, because only God can cast people out of God’s presence. Only God is the judge of sin.
And so if that’s the case, then we’re told that there’s something very different about this judge. He’s the only one. And his response isn’t guilty, it’s that I don’t know you.
Now thankfully, I’ve never had to go into a court of law and face a charge against me and wait for the judge to declare guilty or not guilty. But what I wouldn’t expect if I were, and any of us, if we ever find ourselves in that situation, what we’re hoping for is not guilty.
What do you know me? I did serve on a jury a while back. Very briefly, they ended up removing me from the jury because I didn’t fit what they wanted on the jury mix. But here’s the thing, I didn’t know the judge when I showed up.
He asked us questions to get to know us a little, but he didn’t say, well, I don’t know you, get out, you’re not part of the jury, and he didn’t say that to the people that were being tried. He didn’t say, well, I don’t know you, and I do know you, right? That’s not the concern.
Acts 17, verse 31, what do we read? “Because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.”
Now when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some of them mocked, but others said, we will hear you again about this.
What has the father done? He has appointed Jesus to be the judge, and he’s done that by the ultimate sign, the sort of sign that only God can do. The father raises the son from the dead to know us.
What we also see if we go through Acts is that there are people who try to do wondrous signs, but they try to do it without really knowing Jesus. And so they come before the judge, and they come before the world, and maybe they face the demonic, maybe they face other people, and they fail miserably.
Why? Because they don’t actually know Jesus. We’re all guilty, but are we known? I’m guilty, but am I known? That’s what we’re being challenged tonight. That’s what we’re being challenged by Jesus.
It doesn’t matter if we have the best testimony or the worst testimony. It doesn’t matter if we do mighty works or we look at our lives and think, God’s never even going to notice me. Everything I do seems so insignificant. The question is, does the judge know you? Does Jesus know you? Because that’s what matters.
Now you might say, but Tim, are you saying that works aren’t involved? It doesn’t matter what I do. It doesn’t matter if I live in a way that’s pleasing to God at all. All that matters is that he knows me, so all I need to do is mail a postcard with my name to God, and as long as he knows me, then I’m going to be okay?
No, it’s not that. Something more.
Take a look at Ephesians 2, verse 10. Paul writes, “For we are his workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.”
You see, being known and doing what’s pleasing to God go hand in hand. And as we know him, as we seek to follow him, we find that we’re reminded more and more of how God has created everything, including the very things that we do.
And it’s so remarkable, this phrasing. Just take a look at it again here. I’m going to go back here. Notice that last phrase. Some translations will say, so that we can do them or something like that, but in the original language, it’s walk, and it’s so good that that’s brought out, because what we’re being shown here is a picture of God laying out a trail. He’s not sending us into a dark jungle and saying, find your way. What’s he doing? He puts a path before us and then calls us to walk down it.
God is the author, not only of us as creatures, but also us as we do things. He enables us to do it.
And so as we do the things that are pleasing to him, not necessarily always or even mostly or maybe in our lives ever the spectacular, but in those everyday choices that we choose to do what is faithful to him rather than what is unfaithful, what are we doing? We’re being reminded that we’re on this path with him, and he’s working in us, and we’re known by him.
You see, knowing and working go together, but not in the way we often think. We think, well, if I can do enough good works, then I’ll get my name in God’s paper, and as he’s reading the newspaper, he’s going to see, look at the local hero that did this and this and this, and what it really is, what it really is is God’s putting out a full page ad about those whom he knows. I’m going to enable them to do good works.
We have it all reversed. We’re known, and then God enables us by his spirit.
So what we really need to ask ourselves is, am I known by Jesus? And when we look at our works or lack thereof, rather than looking and saying, well, I do sin, well, we all sin, but am I trying to escape sin? We all sin, but am I drawing closer to him? We all sin, but as I read God’s word and it speaks against the things I do, am I allowing it to correct me? We all sin, but do I want to be around fellow Christians who help me when I’m struggling, who strengthen me, who pick me up off the ground when I fall?
And friends, that’s what we’re called to do as a church. We’re not called to be a church that has everything right. We are called to be a church that is willing to say, we don’t have everything right, you don’t have everything right, but we’re going to keep picking each other up because we are those whom God has called. That’s what our calling is, and the choice is just, do I want to know him? Do I want him to start that process? Do I want him to set me on that trail to start doing the works of righteousness that he’s called me to? Or am I going to wait until it’s too late?
We see a very similar phrasing in one of Jesus’ parables later on in Matthew, the parable of the 10 virgins who are the bridesmaids that are going for the wedding. They find themselves locked out because they didn’t plan ahead properly. What do we see? The ones that come back, and afterward the other virgins come also saying, Lord, Lord, open up to us. But he answered, truly I say to you, I do not know you.
Then Jesus goes on, watch therefore, for you neither know the day nor the hour. What he’s calling us to is not to have everything right right now. He knows that we are struggling through our sin. We are going to stumble. I’m going to stumble this week. We’re going to stumble this week. It doesn’t mean that we say we should, it means we are, but I want to be known by him.
Maybe you’re scrolling through tonight on social media, and you saw our live stream, and you open it up, and you pull up that app, and you’re just watching, you’re thinking, I kind of would like to scroll some more here, but for some reason you’re watching, and you’re thinking, well, what am I going to do? What am I going to do?
Jesus is challenging, not, okay, get everything right, mister. Get everything right, miss. You, it’s all on you. Now, if you can’t do it, I want nothing to do with you. You’re not notable. I want nothing to do with you.
It’s Jesus saying, Jesus is saying, I love you. I want to have a relationship with you.
My prayer is that if you feel the nudging of the Holy Spirit tonight, that this very night you would say, I want to know you, Jesus. You can do that right where you are, wherever you might be. You can do that. We would love to pray with you, whether online or in person, and as you do that, it doesn’t mean everything gets suddenly easy. Sometimes that path is still a little rugged. Sometimes there’s some stones in it. Sometimes there’s some poison ivy going over it. Sometimes it’s grassy, and if you’re like me, you walk through it, and you’re going to get chiggers. It’s hard, and yet, and yet, Jesus is there with us every step of the way.
How are we measuring? Are we measuring by what impressive things we do that people will praise us for? Are we measuring by knowing Jesus and that quiet process of him bringing out good works in us? That the daily opportunities for faithfulness, we choose faithfulness over what’s easy, what the world says is okay, what we want to do, what seems like it’ll get us ahead. Where did we fall on that?
We had a solar eclipse yesterday. Did you know that? Yes. I read on Friday, there was a big headline on the online news, the ring of fire is coming, and there was a beautiful picture like this. Look at this. Isn’t this amazing? I didn’t take that. This is a ring of fire eclipse. It’s not completely dark like the one we had six years ago, but it’s just impressive, and I imagine whoever took that photo was feeling so pleased afterwards taking that photo.
And so that was the promise of what we were going to enjoy yesterday. So you know I like to show pictures. I’ve already shown some today. I like to share my pictures. I’m a shutterbug, and so I thought I’d share my eclipse picture with you, okay? Here’s my eclipse picture. Isn’t it amazing? Look at that ring of fire. Yeah, this is great.
You’re hiding the blue sky. Yeah, I was hiding the blue sky. Yeah, you didn’t want to see the blue sky. So you know, you might say my vision was a little clouded.
Now, here’s what I know. I didn’t see it, but here’s what I know. I know that the sun was still up there and that the moon still went in front of the sun. There was a ring of fire, but there were clouds in front of it, and when I was thinking about that as I was staring up there, wishing I could get a picture, it started to rain, so I really knew I wasn’t going to get a picture.
I thought, you know, when we talk about something like an eclipse, we’re not really in awe over the fact that the moon went in front of the sun. The moon goes in front of the sun. The moon moves around. The sun moves around. The planets move around. There’s all kinds of neat stuff happening. What do we really care about?
We care about our perspective to it. How are we able to see it? We measure the time of day by the sunset and the sunrise, but the sun isn’t actually setting and rising. We’re spinning around, but what do we really care about? We care about how we perceive it.
That’s what really matters to us, and with an eclipse, why do I care about it? I care about it because I can see it. I couldn’t see it. My vision was clouded, and oftentimes, when we’re thinking about what matters in life, our vision is clouded, and we’re pointing to, well, but these mighty works are moving in front of my life, and I’m saying these mighty words about Jesus, and that’s what really matters, and what Jesus is saying. You need to care if it’s cloudy or not, and there’s only one thing that’s going to clear up that cloudiness in our lives, and that’s actually being known by Him.
And when we’re known by Him, when His Holy Spirit’s working, yes, He’s going to bring out works, yes. The solar eclipse, it depends on the moon moving in front of the sun, yes, it requires those mighty acts. It requires things to happen, but the starting point is to be able to see it at all. The starting point to the Christian life is to see Him. That’s what the people had missed.
We hang our hat on one aspect of the Christian life. Are you doing these things that I deem as worthy of a Christian? Are you doing these things that are clearly not what a Christian should do? Are you saying these words? Do you have an impressive testimony that talks about how down in the dumps you were, and then you knew Jesus, and then Jesus turned your life around, and everyone else should do the same? Is that what you’re doing?
Are you saying, I knew Jesus from the moment that I was aware of anything, and you’re thinking, boy, that’s not nearly as exciting. You’re thinking, wow, how wonderful that is.
It’s not about the words. It’s about what Jesus is doing in our lives. Are we actually known by Him? That’s what clearly here is all that really matters. The people that Jesus talks about here, they had the mighty confession. They said the impressive words. They did the impressive things, but they didn’t know Him.
Maybe we start with that. We need to confess. We need to do. It all starts with being known. Let’s pray that we can be known. And then as we pray that, pray that God would give us the strength to do the things that speak of being known by Him, to live in the quiet faithfulness that He calls us to.
Let’s pray.
Lord, we look at a lot of things. We look at the thickness of the stump to see if the tree is strong. We look at the moving of celestial bodies to see if the eclipse is coming. But sometimes we just need to look at the forecast. What’s the forecast for our lives, Lord? Help us to understand the places where we are clouded. We don’t know You yet, Lord. Would You help us to see that cloudy sky and to realize instead of focusing on all the things that are happening behind the clouds, we need You to wipe away the clouds.
As we follow You, still we will at times end up in partly cloudy skies, and we’ll find ourselves where we can’t fully see You. Lord, we pray in those moments that You would redirect us, that You would bring out that quiet faithfulness, that You would help us to do the things that are right and pleasing to You, even when they’re hard, that You’d help us to turn more towards You, that You’d help us to live lives that speak of Your Word to others quietly, faithfully, determinedly, that we might truly be known by You and know You.
We pray this in the precious name of Jesus. Amen.
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